Episode Transcript
[00:00:11] Speaker A: Welcome to this special edition of owlcast, where we reflect on the highlights and profound takeaways from the Career Day 2026 panels on maritime at ACS Athens. This event took place on March 5, 2026 and brought together over 400 middle school and academy students to explore an industry that serves as the ESS engine of modern civilization.
Joining us today are three of the architects of Career Day Katerina Satopoulou, an executive director and finance expert Daniel Tadros, a COO and maritime lawyer, joining us from New York and Lydia Scambavia, the Alumni Outreach Coordinator of ACS Athens. Along with their fellow alums Dimitra Capas and Paul Katuris, they put together an exceptional event that captured the imagination and inspired the ACS Athens community to look toward the horizon.
Throughout the sessions of the day, four panels drove home the staggering reality that shipping is the lifeblood of our global existence, moving 80 to 90% of the world's trade Students were challenged by a hypothetical scenario a world without shipping would face total collapse within just 90 days, leading to energy blackouts and social unrest. In the context of Greece, a nation that controls 20% of world's merchant fleet, the speakers emphasized that maritime is more than an economic cornerstone, it is a proud national identity. They clarified that a maritime career extends far beyond the deck of a ship, encompassing a massive service sector that requires experts in international law, P and I insurance, high stakes finance and cutting edge it.
A recurring theme that resonated deeply with the students was the non linear nature of professional success. The panelists shared their own diverse academic backgrounds ranging from English literature and Hellenic studies to industrial engineers to prove that you should study what you love first, they emphasized that the maritime industry is a multidisciplinary gateway where soft skills like creative thinking, advocacy and problem solving are more valuable than a specific degree. As modern vessels evolve into traveling data centers, the industry is hungry for fresh brain power to tackle challenges in cybersecurity, AI and decarbonization.
The speakers credited their ACS Athens international background for giving them the street smarts and cultural adaptability required to handle the high pressure 247 nature of global shipping in this concluding discussion, our guests reflect on the spark they saw in the students eyes and the importance of experiential learning. From the middle schoolers intense interest in maritime law to the academy students realization that the industry impacts their daily fuel prices, the day was a success. In connecting the dots, the owlcastle concludes
[00:03:14] Speaker B: with a powerful piece of advice for
[00:03:16] Speaker A: any aspiring get to the bridge. Whether through boarding a tanker to Smell the salt air, exploring a high tech simulator, or securing a summer internship. The panelists urge students to test the waters on board a ship, go to the bridge, and see the application of their studies firsthand. Join us as we explore how the maritime industry remains a vibrant community of lifelong learners waiting for the next generation generation to take the helm.
[00:03:52] Speaker B: We have with us Katerina Stassopoulou and Daniel Tadros, who were part of. They took part in the organizing committee of the Career Day on Maritime, and they also participated as panel members and moderators in two of the panels that were held. Two out of four, if I may add, that attracted over 400 students from the middle school and academy at ACS Athens. So thank you so much for being here, of course, with us, Lydia Escapavia, who in a sense, organized the whole thing from the school's perspective. Lydia is the alumni liaison at the Office of Advancement and Alumni Affairs. And what we are here to do is, I guess, reflect a little bit on what we saw, what we heard.
The maritime industry is so varied and so huge and I might say, so critically important, especially in the days we're living.
So may I give the floor to Katerina Stathopoulou, who can tell us a little bit about her experience. What did you see, what did you hear, and what stood out for you?
[00:05:12] Speaker C: Well, hello. Thank you for calling me to be back here. It's always an honor to be back to the school.
Actually. It was very exciting.
And what I felt was in the morning session where we had the middle schoolers and ninth graders, they were very interested. I mean, the overwhelming response and questions we had after the panel discussion was amazing.
And everybody was interested in law is what really stood out. Okay. A lot of questions on law because we had Demetra and Paul as lawyers and from the insurance part of the industry, a little bit about finance, which was me, but that's okay. But there was a lot of interest and I think we sparked them. And that's what was the whole point.
Now, the afternoon session that we had with the 10th and 11th graders, I love the question that Dan put. And Dan, I loved it when you put it out there. Who has been in a vessel? Okay. And it was amazing enough. Nobody really raised their hand. Dan, do you remember that?
[00:06:25] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, I do. I was surprised.
[00:06:27] Speaker C: I was surprised, too. And they were also interested.
Some good questions came out of that. They were a little thoughtful.
They were thinking about it. I think we sparked them again, you know, being on a vessel. They didn't. I don't think they Connected that even a ferry boat is a vessel and it is maritime industry. There are things you can do even there.
And cruise vessels and, you know, the open maritime industry.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: Well, don't forget that the whole industry has a very particular lingo and it's not something that you come across in everyday conversations, especially for that age.
[00:07:02] Speaker C: Of course.
[00:07:03] Speaker B: So. And Dan, give us also your perspective. Is that what you expected to see? I mean, I know you were remote. You were coming to us from New York. It was early morning for you, but you had a sense of what's going on in the room.
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
[00:07:23] Speaker D: Well, you know, let me tell you this, John. I was number one, thoroughly impressed by the group because I could tell that they were all very focused and they were listening. It wasn't. I could see from the screen, the students sitting there.
I think that this is an area that a lot of students don't understand, that it is such an integral part of our everyday life. Right. I mean, look what's happening now.
Just because of this, this war, oil prices are going to start going through the roof. That's going to impact cars and people being able to get petrol and fuel. Okay, fine, there's a lot of electric cars around, but still, my point is everyday goods that they have in their daily lives, 80% of that is transported on ships. And I think that was starting to sink in. At least that was my impression from looking at their facial expressions. I regret not being there in person because I really would have loved to interact with them. I'm sure they would have. They probably inundated you, Katerina and Paul and Dimitra with questions and I would have loved to have been there.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: Well, this was a topic that was also shown at the video that all the groups watched. And it was something that we could see from, you know, from the back, their faces being surprised.
[00:08:54] Speaker C: Yeah. I think that video really hit home. Okay. It made an impact.
And I didn't want to say it, but I think we can say it now that what we were showing on that video, because the war was imminent. It hadn't started at that point, early March.
Oh, it had. It had.
[00:09:15] Speaker E: We were right on spot.
[00:09:16] Speaker C: We were right on spot. I mean, you know, Dan just said, you know, petrol and gas and oil is now not being moved as much.
So what happens if shipping stops? And it's ominous. So I think, you know, it hit home and I'm sure the high schoolers, 9th, 10th and 11th, because I remember current events was a very big thing when we were made to follow them up When I was a student here, and that opened up our world. And I'm sure they follow things on Internet now. It's even easier.
So I'm hoping that they're connecting some dots from what they heard, what they saw to what is actually happening.
[00:09:57] Speaker E: They did. I want to agree with Dan.
I had, especially from your panel in the library. You had the juniors there. A junior came to me.
Very bright student, undecided, what he wanted to do, where he wanted to study. I mean, he's an athlete. He's a full IB student, He's even an artist. And he was thinking about business. And then he's like, miss, you need to help me. I need to talk to these people again because I think I should go into shipping, maritime, because I can help people.
It's a way that you connect with people and you move goods, like you said, Dan, and you really inspire.
[00:10:39] Speaker B: Lydia, you had an opportunity to go and meet many students, not just this person.
From your encounters through the weeks leading to the maritime event, what was the feedback you were getting? Do the students understand the critical importance of maritime?
[00:11:00] Speaker E: When I first started visiting classes and I said, you're gonna meet the maritime industry in one day, you know, in a flash, and this is your opportunity, and you better grab it, you know, stop scrolling down your phone and read just.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: They're not supposed to be having a phone.
[00:11:17] Speaker E: Yes, not. But at home. At home, when they go and check out their CVs and everything.
So this is your opportunity to go talk to people. And they're like, okay, what do you mean, the maritime industry?
And I'm like, what is the maritime industry to you? And the question is, it's the boats that takes me to Mykonos or takes me to Paros.
And I said, it's not only that.
How do you get your goods? I mean, how.
So they started.
They didn't know what it is. And I said, it started from ancient times.
This is how, you know, communities and nations, languages traveled around.
[00:12:00] Speaker C: Right.
[00:12:00] Speaker E: So they're linking. And then when you came after the video and you talked to them, you inspired them to see what the maritime has to offer them.
Is it an engineer? I mean, you got from the 9th grader asking, what does the maritime I want to be an engineer has to offer me?
[00:12:18] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:12:19] Speaker E: And didn't you tell him, what do you want?
[00:12:22] Speaker C: You. What do you want?
[00:12:23] Speaker E: We want you.
[00:12:24] Speaker B: There is no such a thing. That doesn't apply.
There isn't in America.
[00:12:28] Speaker C: That's the whole point here. You know, study what you want. Study what you Love, come back to shipping. We want you. We need you. It's a different. It's a new shipping. Dan and I, we've. We started. Sorry, Dan. I'm going to say that, you know, many years now, okay, and we've seen the maritime industry change, literally from when I started, when Dan started, to today.
It's a different industry. Different skills are needed, different soft skills and hard skills. So, you know, we evolve, the industry evolves and it's all encompassing.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: So starting with you, Katerina, and then Daniel can chime in. What drew you to the maritime industry?
If you think of the day that you decided, you know what, that's my calling, okay.
[00:13:15] Speaker C: I call it destiny. But you have to realize, you know, when destiny knocks on your door, you have to realize it. So what drew me to that is that I did answer a job ad at that time that a CFO of a very big shipping company was looking for a secretary, slash assistant. Now we're talking mid-80s, okay? Very different job descriptions. And he didn't really know what he wanted.
However, when I walked through the door of the shipping company for my interview, I felt like I went home. And the only reason I felt that is because, okay, I have a captain, that was my dad. I was raised on a ship. But that was not the determining factor. It just hit home. I liked something there. It just dawned on me. And because I liked finance and I was studying, majoring in finance, doing my business management degree, talking with him and explaining. He was talking about what the finance department. And we were in the crisis of the 80s. So that sounded w.
I understood half of what he was telling me during the interview, by the way. I can say that after so many years, but I faked it and fooled and was there.
And it just dawned on me that this is me. So when he said, okay, you're hired, I said, I'm here as your assistant, not your secretary. He says, what do you mean? I said, this is where I want to be so you can mentor me. He was a very ex banker. He really knew his stuff.
And I just want to be you.
And this was a 20 year old girl saying that to a very distinguished gentleman in the 80s. And I was supposed to be home, you know, minding my kids and my husband.
[00:15:03] Speaker E: But your international background did help you exactly. To pivot and say that.
[00:15:08] Speaker C: Exactly.
ACS was what gave me the skills for the interview at that time.
The international background, what I just said, current events. I remember I used to hate current events. And we had Mrs. Winter, God bless her soul, and she was very gung ho. She had us reading newspapers at the time and coming and discussing. And we had the war of the 80s at that time as well.
So although I didn't really like it, I did it. I was a very good student, by the way. So, okay, liked it or not, I produced what I had to do and learned from that. And that gave me the skills, without me realizing it, to come forward and trust myself, understand half of what he was explaining that we were going to be doing there. But I said, I can do it. I feel I can do it. So ACS was the springboard, I think,
[00:16:03] Speaker B: not only the knowledge and the international background, but I think also it builds character, it builds personality that is required in this particular industry.
So, Daniel, how about you?
[00:16:15] Speaker D: So for me, it was a bit different. For me, it was family tradition.
My father was a ship owner, my, my uncles, everyone was in shipping.
I was going on board ships since I, as far back as I can remember, four or five years old.
And I loved everything about the sea, the, the ships. But more importantly, and you guys both hit it on the nail on the head, the ACS international background, I mean, when we were in school, when Katerina and I were at acs, had Americans, Lebanese, Israeli.
[00:16:54] Speaker C: I mean, we were together at some point, corner of the world.
[00:16:58] Speaker D: And, and you, you, you get this feeling. It makes you. And I'm a people person as it is, but it just, it makes you so much better at dealing with people of different cultures. And that's what shipping is all about.
And I knew from day one, I mean, my goal was, I wasn't sure if I was going to go into law or business. I, I ultimately decided to go into law.
And my, my background, not just because of having been raised in Greece, but the language skills, led me to New Orleans, one of the busiest ports in the United States, and importantly, one of the ports where probably 75% of the ships that go in there are owned and operated by Greek ship owners. And I was the only defense lawyer in the south in that area that spoke, read and wrote fluent Greek. So automatically it just translated into a fantastic career for me. And I'm, I'm very grateful for that experience that I did get at ACS because it helped me adapt. I could see it with my partners who were, for lack of a better term, you know, very American.
They had, they had a difficult time adapting to the pace of the international dealing with people and competitive. What it meant to them.
[00:18:22] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly.
[00:18:23] Speaker D: So that's, that was my story.
[00:18:25] Speaker C: See, ACS and in fact, I had this discussion after the first panel with some of the students, and I said, you're getting soft skills and exposure to international and other things. I'll explain that. You're not realizing. And you're going to be performing out there day.
The minute you leave this school, you're going to be performing under difficult times, under time pressure, under difficult other situations. And you've learned how to deal with them, and you've learned that through acs, and you will be doing whatever you need to do, okay? And you're going to look at some point and say, how did I do that?
How did I react to that?
[00:19:10] Speaker E: Second nature.
[00:19:11] Speaker C: But it becomes second nature because of the international background, because of the projects, because of the critical thinking that all courses and the whole thing, the deadlines you put, okay, you keep raising the bar and challenging the students. I mean, you know, we were. Since then, Dan, you can remember, I mean, our teachers weren't, you know, handing out anything. We had to earn everything. Okay.
[00:19:35] Speaker D: Oh, yeah.
[00:19:35] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. And that made us fighters, okay? That made us go out there and get what we wanted, and we knew how to get it.
You know, one thing that this cfo, my first boss, said at some point, and he was very ahead of the curve for that time, at some point he said, katerina, it's not what you know, it's how and where to get the information you need.
And he just spoke to my heart. Because the Greek colleagues weren't into that mentality here in acs, we were forced to go to the library, figure it out, go find the information. Now it's even easier, okay? But even at that time, he said, you need to know where to go find information and how to go find it. That's what will make you better in the long run.
[00:20:25] Speaker B: The quality of education. In acs, I would say, hearing from people who have graduated like, like you today, we are talking to three alums, but also to younger students is that it's the quality of the tacit knowledge that you get. And the idea of learning how to learn, if you learn that there are so many different ways to get the information. Exactly. You hit it on the point.
That's all you need. Because even if I'm not a lawyer, if I know where to find the legal knowledge to do my work or to do a project, that's all I need. And, you know, Lydia also might not be in the maritime industry right now, but you used to be Lydia. And I think you have a very unique understanding. And, you know, you're in finance, right?
[00:21:16] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:21:16] Speaker B: So tell us a little bit about your trip.
[00:21:19] Speaker E: My trip, I moved back to Greece and I went for a couple of job interviews in different banks.
And then I stepped into an office and they threw some loan agreements, shipping loan agreements. In English.
[00:21:36] Speaker C: They're only in English?
[00:21:37] Speaker E: Yes.
And he's like, what do you think of these?
And I'm like, okay, give me some time to read them and I'll get back to you. I didn't answer immediately. I know this. I don't know this. I need to read. And then I came back and I said, there are three different types of loan agreements about bail carriers.
And I said, you know, simple English. I just gave my feedback, which was critical thinking, although I didn't know.
I didn't know the area. And I realized that ACS taught me that in every crisis, because for me, that was a crisis. I was tested. There is an opportunity.
And I told him, if you train me, because I'm fluent in English, I can tell you which one is the best loan agreement. My educated guess is this one. And I'm not going to say which company it was because we're going to be advertising it, but it was a good educated guess, and that's how I got my first job.
[00:22:37] Speaker D: Can I add something, John? Lydia said something that triggered my mind.
To me, ACS has the American way of thinking in an international context.
And to me, that is critical because the American way of thinking is very. I've got to find a solution. I've got to deal with something. Like Lydia said, she was handed a problem, something that maybe another person would have said, oh, I'm sorry, I can't deal with this. But yet I feel that that that American method that ACS instills in the students gives you that confidence to be able to say, you know what, let me take a look at this and I'll get back to you. And boom, you do it. Yeah, I really believe that. I think that's a unique aspect of acs.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: It's a different thing to find a solution for a problem and a different thing to find a problem for every solution. And I think ACS is very unique on this one. I mean, I totally agree with you, Daniel. So thinking of the results of these four sessions that happened in half a day, if you think about it, in half a day, we had four panels with over 400 students.
What would you say is a key statement that you can tell a student who hasn't yet decided what they're going to do in their career or if they're going to go towards one or two or A or B in order to inspire them and tell them and convince them that whatever you do have maritime in the back of your mind as a potential application of your career.
[00:24:17] Speaker C: Just keep in mind that there is a sector called maritime and go and study what you like and investigate this sector and see how you fit in that and bring your skills there if you like it. Now, now I need to say one more thing. In order to be in shipping, you also need to be able to handle pressure. I don't care what you do, whatever you're doing in whatever part of the sector, being in a shipping company, a lot of pressure. Being in the services area where Dan and I are, again, a lot of pressure. Okay, You've got clients in front of you. You've got. Dan has today his hands full. Okay? As an and P and I club me. I've got other issues on the finance side. But you need to be able to handle pressure. You need to be very good at dealing with deadlines that are very short.
You need to have critical thinking and logic, basic logic. Okay? Common sense. What I see around is that everybody, a lot of people are educated, but they're missing common sense. And I think somehow ACS helped us in that direction to build up common sense, not just the education part. So you need to see if you fit into shipping because you also need to be able to handle the pressures of shipping. It's an amazing journey if you like it. And what I always say is you're going to be working, you're going to be doing your job for the rest of your life. Find something that you like, you're passionate about.
So it's not a job job. It's your hobby.
[00:25:55] Speaker B: Great advice, great advice.
[00:25:56] Speaker E: And you never get bored.
[00:25:57] Speaker C: You don't get bored because you need to keep learning. And the only way you'll be a lifelong learner on your job is if you like what you're doing.
And shipping, you need to learn the industry holistically. Okay, I do finance. I understand the industry holistically, but I made a point of it to learn the industry holistically. Dan, the same thing. You want to go forward and those that you know, leave the whole group and go be before everybody, in front of everybody are those that see ahead of the game, okay? They want to see the whole industry. They want to understand it to be better at what they do.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:26:38] Speaker A: Daniel.
[00:26:39] Speaker D: Well, you know, what I would say is taking off on what Katerina was explaining.
There is no other industry in the world that offers you, you such versatility. You could be a physician working in the maritime industry. You could be a lawyer, you could be an accountant. You can be anything you want. And there is a spot for you in the maritime industry. And, and. And, you know, I'm smiling. I don't know if you guys can see me, because we can see you listening. I'm listening to Katerina and I'm thinking to myself, part of that Americanized education that that ACS gave us made us street smart. And shipping is all about being street smart, brilliant, you know, and. And that is really critical.
And ultimately, you're also helping people. Whether you realize it or not, ultimately, you're helping people.
[00:27:33] Speaker B: My last question, and I think we can wrap it up like this.
Would you advise someone in that age, or if you have already advised before they choose that particular career, to tell them, board a ship?
[00:27:49] Speaker E: Oh, yes, 100%.
[00:27:51] Speaker C: Oh, yes, a thousand percent.
[00:27:53] Speaker E: I had to board one for the bank.
I went to a rest of us.
[00:27:58] Speaker A: Did you learn something on the ship?
[00:27:59] Speaker E: The captain, because I had to pay him, he threw me the. You know, he didn't open the ferry boat.
[00:28:05] Speaker C: He threw.
[00:28:05] Speaker E: He's like, climb up. So I had to put the money on me and started climbing.
[00:28:09] Speaker C: Climbing the.
Definitely, definitely.
This is what I said, that the industry is changing, okay?
It's not that easy, okay? Board a ship, go on a ferry, and if you can ask somebody to take you to the bridge, okay? Don't just sit in the back.
The same thing. Go on a cruise. You go with your parents somewhere, Go to the bridge, ask them to show you the. The engine room, okay? Especially in cruise ships. Ask them to show you because it's a very special industry. Ask them to show you the rest of the things they do. Even waste management is a very big issue there, okay? Where you need specific skills and knowledge to work in that industry, in that part of. As a job.
So definitely go board a ship. In fact, when I was in the bank, because of my years within with my father on a ship, one of my clients, they had their ship come to Elefcina for some repairs. And I was eight months pregnant.
And I tell the client I want to go visit the ship. And he says, katerina, you're pregnant. I said, I'm pregnant. I'm not sick.
He says, yeah, but you know, the vessel is not against the dock. It is danias meno.
It's loaded, it's next to other two, so you need to jump the ships. I said, fine, I know what that is. I can do that. He says, you're pregnant.
I'm not sick.
So I drove. I said, I'm your banker. I gave you the money. I'm gonna go see the vessel. So he couldn't do anything else. He had to say yes. And he had three people around me. I was jumping very easily, went on the ship and then I said, I want to go down the engine room. He says, that's where I draw the line. You're not going down all those stairs. I said, okay, fine. You're probably right. I'm not going to pull everything. I'm sure you wanted to see the vessels, so definitely.
[00:30:01] Speaker D: Yeah, definitely. And can I add something, John? One thing that not just go on board vessels, something that we have seen recently happening is even as high school students, juniors and seniors especially get a summer internship at a shipping company.
[00:30:18] Speaker C: Yeah, very important.
[00:30:20] Speaker D: We have fired literally straight out of high school, two people working in our offices in London and in the Far east, in Asia.
[00:30:30] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:30:30] Speaker D: And both of them high school seniors graduated, came straight and interviewed with us.
[00:30:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:36] Speaker D: We gave them a chance and they have been fantastic. So that's another thing that they should consider. Go see what it's like working in a shipping company.
[00:30:45] Speaker C: You know what I would suggest, and I know this is just discussing, but I'm throwing out suggestions since I just thought about them. First of all, there were some suggestions from the panel with Katerina, who has a simulator and that has to. You have to do that. Simulator of the bridge, simulator of the engine room.
Then maybe with parents or other alumni that have shipping companies when their vessels visit Piraeus Elefcina or something, you can have an excursion.
[00:31:17] Speaker B: It's a great idea.
[00:31:18] Speaker C: Yeah.
So have them really board a vessel, honestly, board a tanker, board a bulker.
[00:31:25] Speaker B: There are opportunities in general from time to time, but it's a different thing to see the actual thing and different to see an exhibit.
[00:31:31] Speaker C: It is totally different.
[00:31:33] Speaker B: That's right. That's right.
[00:31:34] Speaker C: I'll give you a small exhibit.
[00:31:35] Speaker E: Even from the smell, totally different.
[00:31:37] Speaker C: Totally.
[00:31:38] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:31:39] Speaker C: I hooked my. My elder daughter, Irene. She didn't. She had told me, mom, I'm never getting into shipping. I said, don't ever get into shipping. I don't care. She's in shipping.
I don't care. Go find what you want to do.
What I did, though, is that since even before, you know, junior, senior and all the years after she was coming home from university, she summertime jobs. One of them was with a shipping company here in Greece. And the ship owner calls me up and she was with all the departments. And the ship owner calls me up and says, we have a vessel in Evia and I'm thinking of taking Irene. Is that okay with you? I said, you're kidding. Thank you. Not just. Okay. So they took her.
I think that's where she decided that she's going to get into shipping on whatever she wants to do, but in the industry.
And they took her down to the cargo holds. It was an empty. And she went down the ladder in the cargo holds. And she had the captain and the engineer explain to her the dots she was seeing or, you know, what they were gonna be cleaning. How do they clean the cargo? The cargo holds? She came home black. I mean, whatever she was wearing threw away. It doesn't matter. I think that just grabbed her.
[00:32:54] Speaker B: Yeah. See the application of it. And I think at this point we can.
I guess the statement I would take from all this is get to the bridge. Okay. So whenever you are in the ship, get to the bridge.
[00:33:07] Speaker D: Get to the bridge.
[00:33:08] Speaker B: Board the ship, get to the bridge. So talk with the crew as well.
[00:33:13] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah.
[00:33:14] Speaker C: They will talk to you. If they see the young generation asking about it, you know, ask to meet the captain. Captain, be brave. They will interact with you. They will definitely do that.
[00:33:25] Speaker D: And maybe, Livia, think about this. Maybe you guys can set up an egg drummi for the kids to go see. The Liberty at last.
[00:33:34] Speaker C: Oh, yes.
[00:33:35] Speaker D: The Liberty at last is a beautiful ship. That's how shipping, Greek shipping started after World War II, those ships.
And it's sitting right there in.
[00:33:46] Speaker C: No, no, no, no. Now it's in Faliro.
It used to be in Paraeus, next to the Aveiro. Bravo, Dan. Yeah, Bravo, Dan. Excellent idea. And you get a guided tour. There's.
[00:33:58] Speaker D: Exactly. And they'll tell you the whole history of shipping.
[00:34:02] Speaker C: That's how Greek shipping started from those liberties.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: Make a note, Lydia.
[00:34:06] Speaker E: Make a note.
[00:34:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:34:07] Speaker B: So we would like to wrap up our discussion. Thank you so much. Katerina Sthopoulou, Daniel Tandros and Lydia Scapavia. I think that that particular opportunity was very unique for our students. And I'm pretty sure that we're gonna do a Definitely on the liberty, but also at different occasions.
[00:34:28] Speaker C: If you arrange the liberty, please tell me. We will.
[00:34:31] Speaker B: We will, we will. Thank you so much.
[00:34:33] Speaker C: Dan, if you're here. You too.
[00:34:34] Speaker D: Thank you.
[00:34:34] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:34:36] Speaker D: I would love to. Bye. Bye.
[00:34:37] Speaker C: Thank you. Thank you.
[00:34:38] Speaker D: Bye. Bye.
[00:34:39] Speaker E: Bye.
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